Singaporeans should change their idea of "greener pastures"

last SG · 2008-11-09T21:56:23+00:00

totally turned off by this thread by the walls of text posted by lionnoisyGuess that's his intention.Moderator should ban him... wasting bandwidth like that....

ulquiorra87 SG

Oh man TS is so wrong.. The grass really is greener on the other side.. Dun need to talk about welfare benefits, transport and all that (it'll probably worsen your argument anyway) the quality of life for me outside singapore owns SG a million times

skythewood SG

Ermm paiseh to side track abit. From what i observed. The average Thais pple usually dun like and depend on public transport like us masses sillyporeans.

The average poorest poor until cannot poor type Thai pple have at least a old bike to get around. And the middle class Thais & above all owned a decent car. Beats me on how they do it. The very young Thais here most of them drive Accord,Vios & jazz. While our youngsters here are still taking the MRT and SBS buses. Lolz. I got a very good job here in Bangkok and im not even on par with them young Thais. Not even with my SGD dollars that i saved when living in spore.

And they still have the cash to party 1-2 times per week without fail in upmarket trendy clubs. Chase pretty Thai girls around.

The people who bo pian take the public transport are those pple who just arrived from other cities and are just beginning to establish their 'base' in the new city. Or in other words maybe they just lack the money. I duno. Lolz...

bangkok traffic jams is terrible.... :(

skythewood SG

i see.. you are a student studying in Oz.

$100-300? u dont have medicare?

u dont have to buy medicines in SG?

what he meant is if you see doctor for diareaa, the total fee including medicine is inclusded.

for OZ is each sold seperately.

how true? i have no idea

ClaT SG

Yes I thought of my family etc.You gain some you lose some.

AndrewPKYap SG

Ermm paiseh to side track abit. From what i observed. The average Thais pple usually dun like and depend on public transport like us masses sillyporeans.

And they still have the cash to party 1-2 times per week without fail in upmarket trendy clubs. Chase pretty Thai girls around.

You are still in Bangkok!!!

Sa Wa Dee Kap!!!!

SPLIT SECOND SG

don't generalize and make unsubstantiated claims...

1. housing interest rates for standard variable rate today is 7.65%, down from 9%

2. ave median home price for sydney is A$230k. that was july 07. with the current situation, it is not unthinkable that the same house will cost less.

3. unleaded petrol prices averages under A$1.30 per litre in Australia

4. 1 year old used camry can be had for about A$22k.

5. public transport both sucks in singapore and australia. ok, ok, i rate singapore's public transport 2.5 vs 2.0 for a city like sydney.

and maurizio13 has posted ad nauseum the comparable living standard on what the aussie $ can buy compare to the sing$. i won't go there.

so, pleez, pleez, do your homework before rattle off like an unleashed poodle.

1. Yes, so? It will rise again

2. 230 K will only land u a place in the middle of nowhere with no shops, shopping centres ect. Please do yr research carefully,the housing prices in uptown areas with amenities will cost significantly more.

3. wow $1.30? See here: http://motormouth.com.au/pricesearch.aspx?Region=Melbourne

4. yes car is cheaper but u are paying tax every month too..

5. public transport is a no brainer, it sucks

6. Eating out costs $6.50 for a pathetic small serving of rice, meat.

lotus999 SG

Its silly how many moutanin tortoise in singapore want to migrate and such.

let me tell u once u u are down there, u will start to miss your frens, relatives and family, unless u have the resources to move them all over to yr new destination.

Well, it is quite true that u cannot be rich in s'pore easily, but s'pore provides more value for the bucks than what overseas can provide. Safety, lively clean surroundings, ease of life and an efficient transport system.

The most important aspect is the culture and food and festivals that u have grown up with.

Are u willing to let all these go for some secluded lonely life in a foreign destination?

How many of u agree with me?

mountain tortoise must go back to the mountain rather than stay in the pot and get cooked slowly.

redDUST SG

1. Yes, so? It will rise again

3. wow $1.30? See here: http://motormouth.com.au/pricesearch.aspx?Region=Melbourne

4. yes car is cheaper but u are paying tax every month too..

5. public transport is a no brainer, it sucks

6. Eating out costs $6.50 for a pathetic small serving of rice, meat.

1. rise than you talk again. if you are not in a position to raise or reduce interest rate, then STFU.

2. that's the average. in singapore, everyone lives in disti 10/11 issit? if you look around the suburbs in melbourne/sydney, it is not impossible to buy (nice) homes in the $3-400k bracket. this is way below your $5-700k bracket you claimed.

3. do you even drive? downtown melbourne's unleaded petrol is about A$1.25/litrel. Shell's unleaded price in sydney is A$1.29. you click on your own link and see for yourself.

4. cars are staple in many other countries. cost of ownership in australia win hands down. i don't even need to go there.

5. singapore today is only slightly better for p-transport.

6. do you eat out everyday? sorry, my lifestyle is diffirent than yours. if you compare city-to-city, eating out in singapore ain't cheap too.

as i said, substantiate your argument if you want to be credible. you generalize with inflated figures and you hope to get away with it?

SPLIT SECOND SG

1. rise than you talk again. if you are not in a position to raise or reduce interest rate, then STFU.

3. do you even drive? downtown melbourne's unleaded petrol is about A$1.25/litrel. Shell's unleaded price in sydney is A$1.29. you click on your own link and see for yourself.

4. cars are staple in many other countries. cost of ownership in australia win hands down. i don't even need to go there.

5. singapore today is only slightly better for p-transport.

6. do you eat out everyday? sorry, my lifestyle is diffirent than yours. if you compare city-to-city, eating out in singapore ain't cheap too.

as i said, substantiate your argument if you want to be credible. you generalize with inflated figures and you hope to get away with it?

are u ther ein OZ inthe first place?

fucking hell, how much tax u paying?

I feel the amount of tax u paying , u r not getting the amenities for that price.

and also u working there?

I have worked for 3 long yrears and i can tell u the work culture is horrible in melbourne.With the dozens of PRC and Indian, expect lot of politics..

skythewood SG

are u ther ein OZ inthe first place?

fucking hell, how much tax u paying?

I feel the amount of tax u paying , u r not getting the amenities for that price.

and also u working there?

I have worked for 3 long yrears and i can tell u the work culture is horrible in melbourne.With the dozens of PRC and Indian, expect lot of politics..

singapore has PRC and indians too

SPLIT SECOND SG

...one time I took MRT and Bus to Tuas from Upper Serangoon, damnz it... you know how much it costs? You know how long it took? Believe me, with the amount of time you save and the amount you have to pay "going public"; driving my own car is better... (maybe if it were to town that might be different)... still, you cannot generalize and say that going public is always better.

public transport in OZ costs a freaking $2.70 FOR a 2 hour ticket in suburban areas. and u can only use it on bus,trams and trains for 2 hours and it expires.

which means for people commuting to work from the morning and returning in the evening, it costs $6.50.

and most people travel to city to work and that is $3.30 for a 2 hour ticket

A$3.30/2hr to A$3.50 at the beginning of 2008, and even more for daily/weekly/monthly tickets. (You don't get charged per trip like in Singapore, so even if you're just making a one-way journey, you've got no alternative than to fork out more than three bucks). Did my salary go up? No, my taxes did, thanks to Kevin Rudd. And interest rates have gone up. The fare rise is a bigger increase than S$.03 that everyone gets up in arms about. And what do we get for it? Trains still get cancelled. Trams still change their service at the last minute.

and once i was stuck in a not so safe area after 10. The last tram was supposed to arrive at 10.20 according to the bloody timetable - it didnt and in oz there is this number to call on your mobile to find out the next tram arrival, to my horror it stated the next tram is in the morning. Wtf ??!!

skythewood SG

failure of maths? 2.70 x 2 = 5.40

3.30 x 2 = 6.60.

why did you give a 6.50?

viciouskitty74 SG

singapore has PRC and indians too

And word is, we are changing our name to Philipore, Chinapore or Srilankapore.

SPLIT SECOND SG

Other pastures will always look greener to the many frogs who have not left their well that is S'pore.

Then again, S'pore is a place where the young and old alike slog all day, while the clever (white) FTs and brilliant rulers enjoy the fruits of that labour. (tell me you didn't think those 2 upcoming resorts were meant for you, did you?)

Sillyporeans, please

Suck it up

In Oz its the same. Ruling elite

Only fools will go to the resort. i can just travel to Natural adelaide and Tasmania to stay with my friends than paying thru my nose for a artificial man made singapore resort

SPLIT SECOND SG

failure of maths? 2.70 x 2 = 5.40

3.30 x 2 = 6.60.

why did you give a 6.50?

ad in your food expenses ( i meal = avg $7.50), its more than $13 per day spent and u still get taxed.

In singapore i just need around $10 for food ( 2 meals) and transport per day - $50 per week and thats $200 per month.

Vendettus SG

are u ther ein OZ inthe first place?

fucking hell, how much tax u paying?

I feel the amount of tax u paying , u r not getting the amenities for that price.

and also u working there?

I have worked for 3 long yrears and i can tell u the work culture is horrible in melbourne.With the dozens of PRC and Indian, expect lot of politics..

The amount of tax you're paying doesn't even start to giving you the amenities.

When you're old, the government doesn't give a sh!t about you (think euthanasia). You'll have to work until you're over 60 before getting what reserves you have in your CPF (which, may I remind you, is forcibly imposed). While citizens in America get to enjoy retirement at around 50 and can ask the government for money and healthcare subsidies, you'll be picking up cardboards off the streets.

Talking about culture, Singapore's culture is nowhere near as diverse as some other countries. You can boast all you want, but how often do you see Singaporeans celebrate Chinese New Year like in China/Hong Kong?

Land-wise, have us a better city structure than Tokyo/Hong Kong? Do we have clean waters like those in Huntington Beach or Perth? Have we nature reserves that can rival those in China?

skythewood SG

ad in your food expenses, its more than $13 per day spent and u still get taxed.

In singapore i just need around $10 for food and transport per day - $50 per week and thats $200 per month.

somehow i have the feeling you just avoided my question. giving rough figures is more prudent than giving the exact amount anyway.

SPLIT SECOND SG

i gave u exact figures..or at least a minor difference..

Vendettus SG

Tell me why does our country have such a high migration rate, the government is getting worried?

Do you think the Singapore brains have not weighed each factor before deriving at the decision to migrate? Have you not thought that they must've found another country better suited to migrate?

You may say all the bad things in the world, but statistics never lie.

redDUST SG

are u ther ein OZ inthe first place?

fucking hell, how much tax u paying?

I feel the amount of tax u paying , u r not getting the amenities for that price.

and also u working there?

I have worked for 3 long yrears and i can tell u the work culture is horrible in melbourne.With the dozens of PRC and Indian, expect lot of politics..

you joined the wrong company and have lousy colleagues, you blame the country??? very singaporean.

as one forumers here would say, "it seems like you have not assimilated well there."

i work with lots of aussies over the years and i can say other than one or two jerks, the overall experience is good. you get the fair share of jerks here in singapore too. fyi, i will be joining my aussie country office permanently.

you can always return to singapore. why bitch over it?

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